Rodwell junction

Rodwell junction (large version)The final set of signals along the Boot Hill corridor are going live this week.

The new Rodwell junction will be switched on during Thursday afternoon, depending on the outcome of the testing of the signals.

With these last set of signals live, work will start later this month to link the junctions along the corridor, which will make them more efficient.

Temporary traffic lights have been at the Rodwell Avenue junction with Rodwell Road since Boot Hill was made one-way for the improvement work to be carried out.

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15 Responses to “Rodwell junction”

  1. Selwyn Williams Says:

    The Harbour Crossroads have improved the flow of traffic from Westham Crossroads through to Wyke Road immensely and the linking of the Rodwell Avenue signals should improve that even more. I cannot see the problem with Harbour Crossroads I come out of Chickerell Road down to it and turn right across to North Quay while aware of the opposite flow out of Westway Road. A few extra lane markings may help those who are confused. It’s a pleasure not to have to queue at the old Harbour Roundabout, plus the give way slips at Westham Corssroads are great.

  2. Ian Hooper Says:

    At 08:45 this morning the lights at the top of Rodwell Avenue were going from green to red in a matter of seconds allowing a single vehicle (2 if the drivers were quick) to join Rodwell Road.

    At the same time traffic was turning right into Rodwell Avenue which was highly dangerous to anybody turning right out of the Avenue.

    The additional problem was the vechicles leaving Rodwell Avenue and going right were unable to join Rodwell Road as the traffic was blocking the junction waiting for the lights at the top Boot Hill to change.

    Can you please tell me how I am meant to join Rodwell Road without being left in the middle of the junction waiting for a gap in the traffic and avoid cars turning right into the Avenue? This seems to be majorly flawed and dangerous to me.

    • Weymouth Transport Package Says:

      Hi Ian,

      At Rodwell Rd / Rodwell Ave the signals will cycle round quickly if no one can enter the junction due to congestion.

      Over the next few weeks we will start to link the adjacent junctions which will gradually improve the situation.

  3. Doug Says:

    I now see the Asda junction is to be ‘improved’with extra road markings and filter signals for those turning onto the Quayside from Boot Hill. My wife and I stood and watched what currently happens. Traffic did get stuck in the middle and we onlysaw the filter light come on once during two cycles of lights even though the traffic was hoping to turn right without being stopped by traffic going up Boot Hill. As we walked back up Boot Hill and Rodwell Rd. there was a long queue of traffic, including buses getting stopped at the various sets of lights as they made their slow way towards Asda junction. It seemed that traffic, just a few vehicles, going into and out of Wyke Rd and Chickerall Rd had priority and were moving much more freely.Does this mean that that the main A354 Rd. is nor seen as a priority and we can expect longer delays as we try to escape the new junction ‘improvements’. At the top of Boot Hill we were surprised to see bus stops virtually opposite each other leaving any upward following traffic having to wait behined a stopped bus. Perhaps offsetting the bustops, as seems to be the norm for other areas, and starting the down bus lane a bit later would give the opportunity for traffic to move in both directions.

  4. David Says:

    Why have the queues along buxton road been longer and more frequent since the completion of the boot hill alterations?
    I have noticed that it is often very hard to turn right from Rodwell avenue due to traffic queueing across the top.
    Can this be resolved please.

    • Weymouth Transport Package Says:

      Hi David,

      The Boot Hill corridor is not running at its optimum at the moment.

      We have very recently installed the system which links the Boot Hill junctions together, and the system will now work to make the signals more responsive to traffic flows over time – which should improve the situation at the Rodwell Avenue junction.

      We are now also able to monitor flows of traffic and alter the signals remotely, if necessary, to help keep traffic moving.

  5. Bob Bullin Says:

    The traffic queues along Rodwell Road/Buxton Road seem to get longer & longer! Twice this week it has taken about 20 mins to negotiate the Boot Hill corridor from the Portland direction. These works were meant to reduce the time taken to journey from Portland to Weymouth (& vice versa) by about 3 mins (or so I read somewhere before the project started), so why are the lights still not working in concert to facilitate a smooth flow of traffic in either direction?

    • Weymouth Transport Package Says:

      Hi Bob,

      Because of the design of the Wyke Road junction – to take into account the pedestrian crossing and narrow width of Rodwell Road – drivers from Portland will have a quicker journey by using Portland Road and Wyke Road.

      With regards to the Rodwell Avenue junction, the SCOOT system, which is the element that links the junctions and allows them to react to traffic flows and learn traffic patterns/behaviour, has only been active for around a month.

      Now this system is in operation the Boot Hill corridor should become more responsive over time, but the full benefits won’t be seen until all the junction works are complete.

  6. Ian Hooper Says:

    There are major issues at the Rodwell Avenue junction and the routes heading either way from it.

    It is near impossible to leave the junction during busy periods as the Rodwell road traffic blocks the junction. This means cars cannot turn right unless they in turn block the main road and cars wanting to turn left at the top of the Avenue cannot go as the cars in front cannot go right!

    The recommended route for me to get to Chickerell Road is left at the top of the Avenue, right through Cross Roads and then down Everest Road…..Cross Roads is completely jammed in the mornings with Holy Trinity traffic and the residents parking down Everest Road is creating major jams as a minor road becomes used by an increasing number of people (remember Everest Road was ‘access only’ during the road works as it was deemed unsuitable for so much traffic).

    Ironically, when the Rodwell Avenue junction isn’t busy, traffic on the main road constantly jumps the lights, or the timing on the lights is dangerously out.

    Making Hope Square 2 way would improve the situation for people living in the Rodwell area.

    • Weymouth Transport Package Says:

      Hi Ian,

      We appreciate that it can be difficult at peak times to get out of Rodwell Avenue.

      Traffic from Portland will have a quicker journey time by using Portland Road and Wyke Road, which will help the Rodwell Avenue situation, but it will take time for drivers to switch onto this route.

      We are currently reviewing the operation of the signals at Rodwell Road/Rodwell Avenue to give more priority to Rodwell Avenue.

      In the meantime, you may find it quicker to use the Portland Road route, though we know this means extra miles.

      We still advocate that local traffic can use Cross Road to access Wyke Road and Chickerell Road, but not vehicles jumping onto this road in an effort to reduce their journey times.

      We are unaware of any fault on the lights, but have passed your comments onto the traffic control team for them to investigate.

      Making Hope Square permanently two-way is not feasible, as witnessed during the Boot Hill works.

  7. Ian Hooper Says:

    Thanks for your reply.

    How do you intend to get drivers to switch from using Buxton/Roadwell Rd to Wyke Rd?

    More time for the green light at the top of Rodwell Ave should obviously help, but with the Rodwell Road traffic able to block the junction there would still be nowhere to go as the lights at the top of Boot Hill sit on red for long periods. Maybe a yellow box would help solve the problem?

    Using the Portland Road route involves many extra miles! Interestingly you recommend using Portland Road as the journey could be quicker but then say drivers shouldn’t use the minor roads to reduce journey time – how does advising drivers to take longer routes fit with helping the local environment?

    In my opinion, the problem with cars jumping the lights at the top of Rodwell Avenue is due to the stop line being some way back from the junction, so any drivers trying to nip through just as it turns to red are still passing through the junction when the green light is showing for traffic leaving Rodwell Avenue.

    There is little point in having Hope Square flowing in the direction it currently does as traffic can get to the same destination by using the Asda junction and going up Boot Hill. If the traffic flow were reversed in Hope Square then people living in the Rodwell area could access the Asda junction and in turn could access roads such as Chickerell Rd and Wyke Rd which they currently cannot do without having to drive the long distances.

    There are still safety issues for pedestrians at the Rodwell Ave junction as there is no indication when it is safe to cross and there is no way for pedestrians to see which light sequence the lights are on for traffic. A lady was hit by a car last month trying to cross as she could not work out when it was safe to cross.

    A couple of other observations I have seen are:
    Cars forcing a right turn out of Wyke Rd at the top of Boot Hill

    Cars making a left turn at the bottom of Boot Hill into Chickerell Rd

    Vehicles at the Asda junction trying to go across it when they clearly should not have a green light.

    • Weymouth Transport Package Says:

      Hi Ian,

      Thank you for your response.

      The phasing of the Wyke Road junction does mean that northbound drivers will have a quicker journey time using Portland Road and Wyke Road to get onto Boot Hill. Vehicles travelling from Portland are directed at Foords Corner to continue along Portland Road to use either Wyke Road or the Lanehouse Corridor.

      As a result of changes at the Wyke Road junction with Rodwell Road some northbound traffic will naturally be re-routed along Wyke Road towards Rodwell Road (Boot Hill), or down Lanehouse Rocks Road. To ensure that drivers can use these routes as a viable alternative, the junction of Portland Road with Wyke Road (cemetery junction) has been improved.

      There are currently issues with the rerouting of traffic over town bridge whilst King Street is one way, until King Street is opened to two-way traffic then blocking at the bottom of Boot Hill is likely to cause queuing on Rodwell Road through the Rodwell Avenue junction. The issue is managing the queues using SCOOT which can only be done once we have a more normal operation on the right turn at Harbour Crossroads after King Street is reopened.

      Box junctions are not arbitrarily placed at traffic signal junctions, but are used to resolve specific issues of junction blocking. Until the traffic patterns settle down from the various roadworks in the area, we will not be able to observe if junction blocking will occur in a balanced network and only then will any localised issue be dealt with.

      With regards to using Portland Road, the route length depends on the journey starting point. The previous comment refers more to traffic arriving from Portland Road, Wyke Regis to reroute and reduce the volume on Buxton Road. Traffic generated from side roads off of Buxton Road is still expected to use Buxton Road, thus not increasing mileage. Portland Road and Wyke Road are not regarded as residential roads.

      At the commissioning of the Rodwell Avenue junction the clearance times were correct and our signal engineers do not expect any changes will be needed. It is not possible to build in periods because red light jumping occurs as it just makes the problem worse. The junction was designed with pedestrian crossings in mind and the road widths are narrower so swept paths for large vehicles are longer therefore the stoplines are set back.

      Hope Square and Trinity Road are not through routes and have very high pedestrian activity. It would be unacceptable to increase the traffic there. During the scheme design a decision was taken to not allow left turns into Wyke Road and Chickerell Road to help meet the overall scheme objective to ease the impact of congestion along Boot Hill.

      As part of the scheme, we are providing more pedestrian facilities to create a safer environment for walkers. Taking the left turns out of these junctions allows us to have a two stage cycle at the lights, which includes a controlled pedestrian crossing of both Wyke Road and Chickerell Road. If left turns remained, we would have to go to a three stage cycle at the lights (including an all red phase) which would bring traffic on Boot Hill to a standstill. It is a question of balancing the restrictions against the benefits the scheme will bring to all other traffic.

      To get onto Wyke Road you can use Portland Road to Wyke Road from Foords Corner, via cemetery junction; or Cross Road between Buxton Road and Wyke Road.

      We appreciate that the changes may mean some additional mileage for a small amount of people, however the vast majority of people will experience improved journeys and everyone will have improved driving conditions.

      The pedestrian crossings at the Rodwell Avenue junction are not controlled with a push-button. The only way to provide controlled/push-button crossings would be to close the hotel access and provide a new one to the north, which would require land purchase. One of the constraints of the scheme was that no land could be purchased.

      This is because the current access for the hotel is within the controlled area of the junction (where there is no traffic when a pedestrian crossing is active), which would cause a potential danger to pedestrians while crossing as vehicles exiting the car park would be unaware of pedestrians having right of way.

      The crossings are as they have always been – uncontrolled – so unfortunately there will be no signalised indication of when it is safe to cross. Tactile paving has been put in to indicate where it is best to cross the road, and it allows for a future upgrade to a controlled crossing should the land issues be resolved.

      Although we have reduced the crossing widths until we can move the hotel access at 34 Rodwell Road and put in controlled crossings it will remain as uncontrolled crossings. It is not recommended to view the signals for traffic for when to choose to cross but to watch the traffic.

      Thank you for your observations, our signal engineers have been made aware of these and we will continue to monitor traffic movements.

  8. Ian Hooper Says:

    The Rodwell Avenue, Buxton Road junction is still failing. No drivers are taking any notice of the ‘keep junction clear’ signs so the problem exists of the junction being blocked and the lights constantly cycle in all directions.

    During quieter times the lights are being jumped by all vehicles to the point where I have needed to brake while trying to turn right to allow traffic to pass through the junction at speed. This can only be due to either the light sequence being badly out or drivers using the slopes approaching the junction to gather speed and choosing to speed through the junction instead of stopping.

    It is still very dangerous for pedestrians to cross the junction as there is no way of telling what the lights are for vehicles and there is no indication for pedestrians when it is safe to cross.

    I look forward to hearing your resolutions to these outstanding issues.

    • Weymouth Transport Package Says:

      Hi Ian Hooper,

      Our traffic signal engineers are monitoring the corridor and will be carrying out some changes to the phasing of the Rodwell Road / Rodwell Avenue signals shortly.

      The crossings are as they have always been – uncontrolled – so unfortunately there will be no signalised indication of when it is safe to cross. Tactile paving has been put in to indicate where it is best to cross the road. It is not recommended to view the signals for traffic for when to choose to cross but to watch the traffic.

      Thank you for your observations, we will continue to monitor the junctions and make changes where necessary.

  9. Ian Hooper Says:

    I think this 2 minute footage highlights all the traffic management and safety problems I have been raising for the past several months.

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